TA3D 0.6 beta 1 for windows

[zuzuf]

Since pathfinder has been rewritten, all core features for 0.6 are now implemented so 0.6 enters now in beta stage. Which means stability should increase with betas and bugs get fixed since there is no more big structural changes to be made.

Concerning this beta 1, it's probably more buggy than the last alpha because of pathfinding code being a huge thing. Huge improvements have been with pathfinding and now units should not get stuck any more (there is a known bug which makes unit stuck for no reason, this is not a pathfinding bug since other units can "push" those stuck units which will move again).

Some animation bugs have been fixed too since last alpha. Saved games compatibility is not preserved from alpha to beta 1 (because the new Pathfinder comes with new data structures). Some unit scripting related bugs have been fixed too, so now you can TA Excess beginning animation work.
Also there is a new command line option that runs a build picture renderer which renders a model on a specified background image (we now have auto generated build pictures for all units - TA3D's free resources are not included in this package since they are not stand alone yet).

As usual you can get the package from TA3D's ftp:
ftp://downloads.ta3d.org/binaries/windo ... _beta_1.7z

[Balthazar]

Can`t run. Asking for pthreadGC2.dll

Please fix and reupload by the same name.

[zuzuf]

oops, I didn't see that problem since I could run it ...

Fixed archive uploaded

[Balthazar]

thx

[Balthazar]

Strange bug. Game doesn`t starts. Loading screen halts.

Both campaign and single.

[zuzuf]

strange, can you be more precise ? Where does it stops ? How long have you waited ?

I know it stays quite a long time on units loading (probably the last menu stuffs which should be more optimized) but for me it finishes loading and game starts.
I've built this package with mingw32 4.4, I'll try to build it again with mingw32 3.x (the same as alpha 18) if needed.

[Balthazar]

In scirmish map load indicator was full but the game doesn`t start. I`ve waited for about 5 mins after full load.
In single indicator halts on units. I`ll try again 1 min.

[Balthazar]

yeah, all the times loading bar is fully filled - i`ve got text - Load finished but game doesn`t starts.

Added: you was right, I need to wait a little more while units are loaded, so the my previous post about halt on units was wrong.

[Balthazar]

I`ve got it running. Set shadows to high... Strange... I`ll try to switch back an check.

[Balthazar]

I guess I found the cause. It`s not shadows. Somehow new pathfinding cause program termination.

Once I order my Comm to move (or AI does) it makes several steps and game crashes. Maybe this was the cause of halting before

One more log if it helps.

(music still plays while game halts)

If you`ll fix it in a tomorrow - reupload the same file, no need in new version build

[zuzuf]

Today I've been trying to enable multicore support on a windows in a virtual machine and I discovered XP has a few problems with that so I was interested by this line in your logs:

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[Sun Nov 22 23:43:46 2009][ta3d][infos] CPU: 2

Do you have multi-core support working ? Which windows version do you have ? (XP pro/home, etc ...)
I am wondering if pathfinding is not using to much CPU on single core machines (I didn't test the resource limiting code).

PS: long loading time is fixed.

[xpoy]

[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][check] Welcome to TA3D
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][check] Version: 0.6-WIP (r2217)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos]
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Started from: `D:\ta3d\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Preferences: `D:\ta3d\settings\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Cache: `D:\ta3d\cache\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Savegames: `D:\ta3d\savegames\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Screenshots: `D:\ta3d\screenshots\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [paths] Logs: `D:\ta3d\logs\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] Opened the log file: `D:\ta3d\logs\ta3d.log`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [resources] Added `D:\ta3d\resources\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [resources] Added `D:\ta3d\`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] Loaded from `D:\ta3d\settings\ta3d.cfg`
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][notic] [system] Microsoft Windows, Vendor: Unknown Unknown (None)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][notic] [system] Desktop: 1024x768 (32bits)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [system] SDL version: 1.2.13
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] CPU: 1
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][check] OpenGL Informations :
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] Vendor: Microsoft Corporation
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] Renderer: GDI Generic
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] Version: 1.1.0
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [OpenGL] Texture compression: No
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [OpenGL] Stencil Two Side: No
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [OpenGL] FBO: No
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [OpenGL] Shaders: No
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] [OpenGL] Multi texturing: No
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:35 2009][ta3d][warns] [audio] Impossible to load the playlist : 'D:\ta3d\resources\music/playlist.txt'
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:36 2009][ta3d][infos] [audio] Loading sounds from gamedata\allsound.tdf
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:36 2009][ta3d][infos] [audio] Loading sounds from gamedata\sound.tdf
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:40 2009][ta3d][infos] [audio] Loading sounds from gamedata\sound.tdf
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:42 2009][ta3d][infos] The engine is ready.
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSans`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSans.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeMono`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeMono.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSans`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSans.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSerif`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSerif.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] Initializing the mouse device handler
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:43 2009][ta3d][infos] Initializing the keyboard device handler
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:16 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] Making a backup for `D:\ta3d\settings\ta3d.cfg`...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:16 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The backup is done.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:16 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The settings has been saved.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][warns] [gfx] SDL_SetVideoMode failed : Unable to make GL context current
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][warns] [gfx] retrying with GL_DEPTH_SIZE = 16
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSans`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSans.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeMono`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeMono.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSans`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSans.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:17 2009][ta3d][infos] [font] `FreeSerif`: From cache (`D:\ta3d\cache\FreeSerif.ttf`)
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:27 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] Making a backup for `D:\ta3d\settings\ta3d.cfg`...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:27 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The backup is done.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:27 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The settings has been saved.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:37 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] Making a backup for `D:\ta3d\settings\ta3d.cfg`...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:37 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The backup is done.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:37 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The settings has been saved.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] Making a backup for `D:\ta3d\settings\ta3d.cfg`...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The backup is done.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] [settings] The settings has been saved.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] Aborting now. Releasing all resources...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] Exiting now.
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] Aborting now. Releasing all resources...
[Mon Nov 23 13:02:45 2009][ta3d][infos] Exiting now.


A player get 100 CPU in main menu, look like some problem in hardware check

[Balthazar]

Today I've been trying to enable multicore support on a windows in a virtual machine and I discovered XP has a few problems with that so I was interested by this line in your logs:

Code: Select all

[Sun Nov 22 23:43:46 2009][ta3d][infos] CPU: 2

Do you have multi-core support working ? Which windows version do you have ? (XP pro/home, etc ...)
I am wondering if pathfinding is not using to much CPU on single core machines (I didn't test the resource limiting code)

Yes, I have 2x core CPU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+.
My OS is Windows 7. (it have multi-core support by default AFAIK).

[zuzuf]

[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][check] OpenGL Informations :
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] Vendor: Microsoft Corporation
[Mon Nov 23 13:01:18 2009][ta3d][infos] Renderer: GDI Generic

looks like there is no hardware acceleration here.

[Balthazar]

looks like there is no hardware acceleration here.

He knows. He wrote in another thread about video card doesn`t support OpenGL.

[xpoy]

/:^]
How ever, the main bugs can in pathfind/ loading/ ati code

[Manoa]

processor: Core 2 Duo E6750 (Conroe 65nm)
memory: 2048 MB
video: AMD Radeon 3870, 512MB GDDR4 VRAM
platform: xp32 sp1

first loading time is VERY LONG (before cache) (was 15 minutes).
second and third loadings were only 6 minutes

when it says "finished loading" it's stuck in the loading screen and starts playing music, then when the music stops, it goes back from "finished loading" to "loading map" (and green bar goes back) then the log says "game started" and "good luck comander" but there is nothing on the screen

game mode was single player/arm campaign, graphic settings as you can see were on highest

btw forum does not support upload txt/log/cfg extensions

[zuzuf]

hm the unit loading time reveals some interesting differences between OSes. Looks like windows doesn't keep directory structures cached which Linux seems to do.

This bug is fixed it should not appear in next beta (soon next week I hope).

[Manoa]

I could help test on linux too, but my linux system probably not qualified (pentium 3 slot 1 500 mhz, 384 mb sdram, mach64)

[zuzuf]

Indeed I doubt the mach64 could run TA3D but it may be worth trying

[xpoy]

I will had time in next week, maybe.
Then will try to help in code optimization, profession tester/:^}~

[Manoa]

actually that's not entirely correct...
I think it's because of my filesystem, I am using a ext3 driver for windows, and using ext3 filesystem in windows, so when I load ta3d on that filesystem, it take 6 minutes after cache, but now that I moved the beta to a FAT32 filesystem, the loading time was a little more than 1 minutes, without cache the loading time was 4:30 minutes on FAT32, looks like my ext3 filesystem driver for windows slow things down despite write cache was enable on all physical drives